What? Taekwondo has no governing body and as such, will not be represented in the Laos SEA Games? Read the Bernama report here and the New Straits Times piece here.
We should go along these lines - that the Olympic Council of Malaysia, in the absence of a governing body that was recognised by the Malaysian authorities, acted as the guardians of taekwondo, a decision which allowed our exponents to compete at the Korat SEA Games in 2007 and the Beijing Olympics.
An ad-hoc committee chaired by OCM president, Tunku Imran Tuanku Ja'afar, was established in 2007 to solve the impasse that began when the then Sports Commissioner, Tan Sri Elyas Omar, de-registered MTA in May 2005.
It was agreed by the previous Sports Minister that the Malaysian Taekwondo Federation (MTF) and the Malaysian Taekwondo Clubs Association (MTCA) were to be dissolved. Yet the two bodies continue to exist, undissolved and the issue remains unresolved.
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After reading what is written about Taekwando and the role of the OCM, it just looks like the OCM is actually showing out their colors as the governing sports body. What is the use of the adhoc committee with Tunku Imran sitting there and Sieh Kok Chi has the final say. It looks like that any comments made by anyone in sports can be override by the Sec. Gen. of OCM. Why does the SC put his fingers into this and not stick to his job?
Thiking rationally in this, I feel that something quick has to be done as the athletes who have been trainig all this while will be demoralise. After all it is noted that the athletes do give Malaysia gold medals and putting the name of the country in the forefront of all competitions.
SG, I think its time you give up your seat to a better person. Age has caught up with you and ou are getting too attach to OCM and would only leave when you are no more senile. That's what t looks like.
All the best to the restructuring of the Taekwando and hope that everything will work out right without the interference of certain people.
The incestuous and internecine battle between these takwando idiots is a sick joke. I propose these two idiotic bodies slug it out in a no-holds barred contest, or fight to the death in a cage, to settle the issue of who will be the standard bearer of this sick sport. Or maybe a kung-fu style slugfest which will interest the public. In the meantime, treat taekwondo as a big joke. Anyone care to disagree?
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Dear Brother Rizal,
You were there when the 'oldman' said ' Speak softly and carry a big stick'. Quoting one American President. A public servant need not resort to such things la...just do your job. PERIOD.
To correct you bro, The Adhoc Committe was formed by the Minister on 1.4.2009 and not in 2007. This happened after MTA agreed to withdraw its contempt of court suit against D.Nik Mahmood upon the request by Minister Ismail Sabri on 16.12.2008. Nik Mahmood was sued for trying to play judge when a civil suit was pending in High Court.
D.Ismail Sabri after meeting with MTA officials decided to meet all org in tkd which includes MTF and MTCA which was registered by Elyas Omar in 2005. The SC then refused to admit that neither MTF nor MTCA can represent the country..Bodoh sombong some say.
Anyway the deal was MTF and MTCA to be dissolved and all parties agreed that MTA shall be suspended to facilitate the amalgamation of members who left MTA in 2005.
Yes in 2007 OCM acted as the governing body of tkd in Malaysia only after WTF (World tkd Federation) gave its blessings to OCM to send athletes to Manila Sea Games. WTF made it very clear in their letter to SC and OCM that 2007 is the one and only exception.
As much as I want the athletes to participate in the Games, I'm afraid Sieh Kok Chi is RIGHT. Once a governing body is suspended or deregistered, the provision in Sports Dev Act specifically bars the body to send athletes overseas.(Sec 25 Sports Dev Act)
The Agreement reached is something like this;
1.MTA to withdraw all civil suits.
2.MTF and MTCA to be dissolved.
3.MTA to be suspended and an AdHoc Comm to be formed.
4.Each body to be represented by 2 persons.
5. The MTA's constituion to be amended and election to be held within 3 months.
The above is among others, the terms of reference for the the Adhoc committee to adhere to. BUT it appears Tunku or Roy were not briefed on this by Nik Mahmood.
Off course there will be delay when you dont follow the terms of reference and when only MTA is suspended whilst the other 2 remains operational. Obviously there is no urgency to the fellas in MTF and MTCA to put things in order ASAP.
Didn't the Minister know that this will affect the athletes?! Off course the Minister knew this and thats why he gave the 3 months time frame to put things in order.
The adhoc Committe is formed by the Minister to manage the affairs of the sports body while it remains suspended (Sec 22 Sports Dev Act). MTA as a sports body can only do activities in its name once the Minister makes a decision and lifts the suspension.
The Adhoc Committe must not be misled to think that they are now office bearers of MTA. They are NOT.
So its obvious the screw up here is again by the SC. He was present at the 16 Dec meeting. Why doesnt he follow the decisions reached at the meeting? Ask him la bro.
Maybe he might also say he is the AG for sports and he can do what he likes. Ask him la bro..ask him.
Mr.Minister Sir, For Sports sake, change the SC or close down the office. The office has caused more trouble than good.
And to the opportunists who'd like to bash Sieh Kok Chi for the screw up in tkd, sorry guys..not this time, the Old Man is Right la.
Ya la...agreed Taekwondo has become a joke. Maybe all NSA should follow the suggestions by SC when it comes to clubs issue. Hey Nik Mahmood, cuba la dengan FAM lepas MTA. Cuba la. Semua Kelab-kelab yang aktif boleh menjadi ahli gabungan FAM dengan hak mengundi. Boleh ka? Maybe Nik Mahmood can start a clubs campaign with NST like they did for tkd.
Ape pula kata Jeneral kita ya (SG FAM).Boleh kah tuan Jeneral?
bro,
NSTman probably is ignorant that some fellows in the media have self interset in making tkd a big joke in town. Some of these clowns have interset in the tkd Clubs that the clubs are featured in the papers more often than they should.
They feature the athletes belonging to the clubs they are associated with.
Of course la $ is involved one way or another. There is no harm in promoting tkd clubs..but one should not promote ones course to defeat the NSA's interest.
The bosses in the media corporation should look into this and put a stop to this sort of nonsense.
The mess in tkd is mostly because of the negative reporting especially by NST...correct me la if i'm wrong..remember 'CLUBS CAMPAIGN'. NSTman, go dig up archive if you donno.
Yes tkd is a big joke. Better play softball. Can also win olimpik medal ma.
Taekwando ni banyak F la. WTF la, MTF la, ITF la, GTF la macam mana ni. Mana satu yg betul. Adik aku nak hantar anak dia masuk taekwando pun jadi binggung.
Lepas tu ada MTCA la, MTA la..macam macam. Semua jurulatih mengaku dia diiktiraf. Yang pastinya, isu taekwando ni dah lama dah dlm suratkhabar. Yang saya tau ianya dibongkar oleh Tan Sri Elyas Omar. Beliau lah yang perbetulkan kekecohan dalam taekwando ni. Kita perlukan tokoh sukan macam Tan Sri Elyas untuk menerajui badan-badan sukan yang ada masalah macam taekwando ni.
Dulu masa aku kat VI, Msia gondol semua pingat emas taekwando masa SEA Game KL. Kalau tak silap dapat kesemua 10. Sekarang apa sudah jadi. Kenapa tak KBS kembalikan semula pentadbiran taekwando ni macam tahun 80an dulu. Barulah kurang gaduh.
Hiiyak!
Salam Bang,
Yang saya tau drp master anak saya, isu tkd bermula apabila kelab-kelab tkd yang pada ketika itu berdaftar dgn pendaftar perniagaan mahukan hak mengundi dalam persatuan. Tak masuk akal lah kalau master-master ini yang cari makan sambil mengajar mahukan hak mengundi sama rata dengan persatuan-persatuan tkd negeri. Sebagai individu yang mengajar tkd, bukankah tanggungjawab mereka untuk mengajar dan melatih anank-anak agar mereka boleh menjadi atlet negara. lagipun, takde siapun yg paksa dia orang. Dia dibayar yuran kerana mengajar. Ini pulak nak demand hak mengundi kononya mereka lahikan atlet untuk negara.
Kalau betulla mereka ini ikhlas dan hati mereka murni, ajarlah secara percuma dan anggaplah ianya sebagai hobi kerana sayangkan sukan tersebut. Cuba lihat kawan2 kita yang melatih hoki, bolasepak, kriket dsb. Semuanya kerana sayang dan minat kepada sukan tersebut.
Sekarang kononya mereka dah berdaftar dengan Suruhanjaya Sukan konon. Kelab konon. Yang control masih master itu lagi. AJK dia semuanya emak2 dan bapak2 anak murid. Ahli persatuan atau Kelab mana ada? Semuanya pelanggan dia oranglah. Macam budak-budak yang belajar tuisyen la.
Aku pun heran macam mana suruhanjaya sukan boleh terima dia orang ni. Ini patut diaudit oleh SPRM kot.
Itu Tunku Imran jaga dia punya Kliket pun sudah pening kepala, lagi mau jaga kungfu kah?! Tak payah la.
Kliket Melayula, Kliket Cinala (MCA), Kliket India (belum ada lagi loh). Kasi cantum itu sumua dulu la.
Haiya itu apek Siah lagi satu..apasai lu manyak bising. duduk diam diam sudahla. Lu talak cakap, olang talak hantam ma. Bututka, salahkah, lu diam sudah..itu macam u selamat loh.
Sukan Taekwondo yang dipertandingkan di LAOS ada 16 pingat emas untuk dipungut. Malaysia akan berjaya menggondol sekurang-kurangnya 10 pingat emas seperti di KL pada tahun 1989.
Atlet2 negara yang seramai 5-6 kini sedang giat berlatih.
Matematik saya ni salah ke betul. 16 acara 16 pingat tapi 6 atlet. Oooh..seorang lawan 3 kali kot
How come TKD can have more than 1 national organisation. Why so special? Whose doing?.
Who else lah?
Abang Kumaresan, I kesian kat abang kumar sebab malapetaka yang menimpa persatuan abang. Patutla hari tu masa seminar sukan OCM abang tak kelihatan. Saya yakin kalau abang ada, pasti isu-isu sedemikian boleh di bawa sampai ke peringat Menteri kerana abang kumarla yang pandai bawa jalan cerita.
kan gitu.
Bang, This time OCM is right la, budak Taekwando all a clowns main main sahaja. In the OCM constitution OCM must only recognised one sports body recognised by the international federation of that sport.
Now you ask how can there be WTA, ITF and GTF World, International and Global).
All this started with WTF, they are controlled by a bunch of blood sucking pontianak sucking all the $$$$ from their athletes through grading. They refuse to admit people from other bodies. Left with no choice the International and Global body went to get themselves recognised and brough their problem to Dato' Sieh Kok Chi. DSKC tried to help those boys but WTA does not want and told OCM jangan champur hal. ALL this time WTA people sapu all the money but does not produce half baked athletes.
WTA President sue OCM and SC and they want to tell everyone dont play play. Now some say they are a bunch of jokers, no there are not a bunch of jokers, they are a bunch of corrupted jokers.
So when it was suspended, to help the athlete go to the Games OCM step in and on this, DSKC did a comapssionate thing.
So lomg until now they don't care. Sports Development Act Section 25 apply. So all of you including the President of WTA are all talking nonsense.
I must add that OCM for once is doing the right thing la. I suggest all the Taekwando chaps just give up. To all taekaendo exponent, move to Karate or go to MAKAF.
WTA if you brani, sue OCM lagi la, if not go shut your mouth up and don't talk macam budak bodoh or loyar buruk.
Bang, This time OCM is right la, budak Taekwando all a clowns main main sahaja. In the OCM constitution OCM must only recognised one sports body recognised by the international federation of that sport.
Now you ask how can there be WTA, ITF and GTF World, International and Global).
All this started with WTF, they are controlled by a bunch of blood sucking pontianak sucking all the $$$$ from their athletes through grading. They refuse to admit people from other bodies. Left with no choice the International and Global body went to get themselves recognised and brough their problem to Dato' Sieh Kok Chi. DSKC tried to help those boys but WTA does not want and told OCM jangan champur hal. ALL this time WTA people sapu all the money but does not produce half baked athletes.
WTA President sue OCM and SC and they want to tell everyone dont play play. Now some say they are a bunch of jokers, no there are not a bunch of jokers, they are a bunch of corrupted jokers.
So when it was suspended, to help the athlete go to the Games OCM step in and on this, DSKC did a comapssionate thing.
So lomg until now they don't care. Sports Development Act Section 25 apply. So all of you including the President of WTA are all talking nonsense.
I must add that OCM for once is doing the right thing la. I suggest all the Taekwando chaps just give up. To all taekaendo exponent, move to Karate or go to MAKAF.
WTA if you brani, sue OCM lagi la, if not go shut your mouth up and don't talk macam budak bodoh or loyar buruk.
kita anak melayu, lu salah forum la bro. Sdr, LC tlg cek sikit la all the irrelevant discussions inside ths forum..
bang rizal,
don't let sieh kok chi alias who else la? lie through his teeth all the time. a check with sc's office will show that mta is an active association. not deregistered or defunct. only , for now the ad-hoc committee acts as its board and council untill the next egm and agm. only problem the wrong people heading the ad-hoc committe, and sieh kok chi knows they are useless.
Anonymous 8.07am is no different frm others who put their fate solely in the hands of that SC office. Yes bro, check with Nik Mahmud how an adhoc committee under the SDA97 can be appointed by the Minister. Just b4 u do that, arm yourself with a copy of the Act. Open to Sec 21 & 22 and u will understand (plain simple language)
For the benefit of Anon 8.07 and others who have no knowledge and just speculate, the formula adopted by MTA ,MTF &MTCA was for MTA to be suspended and an appeal to be lodged with the Minister, then the Minister shall appoint the adhoc committee. At the same time, MTF & MTCA shall be dissolved.
The SC and his office is still as blur. Nik Mahmud was shitting in his pants in dec 08 bcoz the MTA fellas didn't wanna budge frm getting him for contempt of court. Finally Ismail Sabri stepped in and saved him by negotiating with the MTAfellas b4 the 16 dec meeting.
For the info off all out there who are in office in sports bodies including the OCM President & his board, get a copy of the act anmd for sports sake read the damn 43 Sections b4 giving comments or media stmts.
Bangang betul la.
WTF = World Tkd Fdn .
ITF = International Tkd Fdn
GTF= Global Tkd fdn (lahir dari ITF)
MTA = Msia Tkd Assn badan induk Sukan Tkd style WTF di Msia.
MTF= Msia Tkd fdn
MTCA= Msia Tkd Clubs Assn
MTF dan MTCA adalah cebisan dr MTA yg keluar dr MTa pada 2005. Presiden MTF ialah bekas timbalan presiden MTA. Presiden MTCA ialah peneraju sebuah kelab Tkd yg merupakan bekas ahli berrsekutu MTA
Isu yg dok hangar hangat ni takde kena mengena dgn ITF atau GTF. Faham murid2.
ITF dan GTF adalah 2 sukan yg berbeza. Kalai tak faham jugak, dia serupa tapi tak sama macam ragbi dgn American football, macam bola jaring dan bola telanjang la.
Ok sekarang dah tau, salin cepat2 sebelum Cikgu padam.
Bahlol betul
Aku dengar adhok comitee yang dipimpin oleh Tunku Imran hampir menghabiskan mesyuarat mereka dan pemilihan AJK MTA yang baru akan diadakan tak lama lagi. Baguslah lagi cepat MTA berfungsi lagi senang lah atlet kita nak ambil bahagian temasya-temasya sukan.
Tapi yang peliknya yang aku dengar, ahli adhok yang terdiri drp 2 wakil MTF, MTCA dan 4 wakil MTA akan dikekalkan sebagai AJK MTA.
Eh..eh pemilihan AJK apa benda ni. Yang saya tahu orang Presiden MTA yang terbaru dilantik setelah Presiden lama dan sebahagian AJK MTA dibuang dari MTA dengan undi tak percaya terhadap mereka. Ini disebabkankononnya mereka tak menetapi akujanji yang dibuat dengan Dato'Azalina dulu.
Jadi takkanlah orang yang dibuang itu akan dimasukkan balik melalui adhok. Bukankah itu isunya apabila pihak MTA saman PJS kerana kononnya PJS mengiktiraf bekas AJK MTA yang kena tendang.
Ini nampak gaya PJS dan adhok comitee ni nak kena saman lagi la ni.
Apapun biarlah ahli ahli MTA putuskan siapa yang mereka nak calonkan. Hah..sekarang aku dengar keahlian dah bertambah dengan kemasukkan kelab2 dgn hak mengundi. baguslah macam itu. Suruhlah mereka mencalonkan AJK baru. Lobi bang lobi.
Takkan Menteri tidak diberi taklimat tentang masalah yang timbul apabila MTA menyaman PJS. Takkan sekarang Tunku nak iktiraf ape yang dibuat oleh PJS dengan memutuskan agar bekas AJK MTA yang kena buang itu dimasukkan balik.
Ahli-ahli MTA bengap ke nak diam-diam.?
Dengar berita Tunku nak buat macam supaya ada orang istimewa dlm adhok dapat dikekalkan sebagai AJK MTA yang baru...siape ye?
Bro, engkau nasihatlah sikit Menteri, PJS dan Tunku. Yang aku tahu, kalau ianya diadakan jugak, Tunku dan PJS cari nahaslah nampaknya. Hang ni selalu komen kat tv komenlah sikit pasal isu taekwando ni. Baru hot.
ape-ape pun i rasa tak lama lagi u boleh jadi macam Rahim Razali atau lebih baik lagi.
Bau bacang mu
Kehadapan 'CIkgu Sukan keras' yang dihormati,
Cikgu, pandai cikgu ajar pasal akronim-akronim kepada kami semua ye. Tapi cikgu tertinggal sesuatu.
ok biar Leyman ingatkan cikgu. ada di Malaysia ni 'MITF' hah ape tu cikgu. bukankah itu badan ITF di Malaysia. Malaysia International Tkd Federation.
Leman pandai tak cikgu?
salam mesra drp anak murid.
Kalimula is right. I heard about this tekwondo fiasco about 5 years ago. Because of this fellas promoting their clubs through NST, my dear sports editor friend at that time was suspended.
Loose canon was at that time a reporter with MMail. But somehow, Loose Cannon carriesd a long article about the MTA side story in NST. You steady la loose canon.
The Clubs champion from that day on was asked to shut the **** up.
Way to go loose canon
Halo-halo Tunku Imlan and Loy Lajasingam.!
Why take so long one. Have the election for the fedelation and tell the fellows to cally on with life lah! Where got ferfect fomula one.
So old yet not so smalt. Oh Ya..maybe pletending to be no smalt huh..why got any agenda somemore ah? But OCM election ovel leady leh..what agenda some..
i know I know..u all want that someone to become the fedelation Plesident light?!! I know I know.
Last time people tell me...but now I understand lo..
You all the same lah.
Now I know..No such thing as fair and free election...Must Pay One..
I'va also heard about the ad hoc committees being put as main committee and only left 2 empty seats to be fill in. So the election is only for these 2 seats. What's the point? If call for election, then do an open election from the top position. Nobody should be placed in the committee without an election.
I also heard that the ad hoc committee has decided to allow 13 primier clubs voting rights. In this case, there is a chance that the MTA being represented by clubs instead of states. and this will set a bad predecessor to other NSA. What if the primier hockey teams or super league teams requesting for voting rights in their respective NSA? Will the SC allow that to happen? If yes, then every NSA will then be represented by "primier" clubs instead of states. How can it be called national sports association if they are being represented by clubs? A national body should be represented by states. period.
MTA should look into the way MAKAF being administered. There are many karate school of thought compare to only one taekwondo under the WTF. Karate has the shotokan, hayashiha, goshinryu and a few more and yet they can be govern under one umbrella. This should be the way it being run and the success stories of karate in the international scene is the proves that it can be done.
STOP thinking about yourself and start thinking about developing the sport and the nation.
Victor my brother, I agree with you. But what can I do when in this country our ways of doing things is to please and curry favour certain personalities. It's nothing personal & it's nothing sporting. Its just plain business.
My heart goes out to you Victor. But what to do, that's life isn't it. Take it easy buddy.
Bukankah Ybhg Dato Roy Dari OCM merupan seorang peguam. Takkanlah beliau pun tak nampak dan tak sedar tentang apa yg sedang betlaku Dom msyuarat adhoc tersebut.
Buat buat tak tahu ya Dato'. Sebagai orang sukan, Kami faham. Sebagai peringatan kpd Dato, isu Tkd ini Akan kami jadikan contoh kepimpinan orang OCM.
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